Is the Abdullah ibn Saba story in Tabari book authentic or not?

all writers about Abdullah ibn Saba refer this story to Tabari book as reference.

and Tabari in his book quoted this story from some one else that he is known to be a liar.



can this story in Tabari book considered authentic?



is there any authentic reference for this story in a more authentic book?



Enemies of Islam whose goal were/are to split the Muslims, in their effort

to explain the emergence of Shia, claim that the Shia are a sect which was

originated by Abdullah Ibn Saba, a Jew who embraced Islam during the reign

of Uthman Ibn Affan, the third caliph. They further state that Abdullah Ibn

Saba traveled in Muslim cities and towns, from Damascus to Kufa to Egypt,

propagating among Muslims that Ali is the Prophet's successor. He provoked

Muslims to kill Uthman since he believed Uthman had occupied the seat of

Imam Ali. He also made mischief in the armies of Ali and his opponents in

the battle of Camel. He was also responsible for all the false ideas of the

Shia forward. These mercenary writers believe that Abdullah Ibn Saba is the

ORIGIN of Shia; and since he himself was a hypocrite and a falsifier of

tales, then all the knowledge and beliefs of the Shia are also false. In

fact, Abdullah Ibn Saba is the best scapegoat for all the claims of some

Sunnis.



While the existence of a person in the name of Abdullah Ibn Saba in the

early history of Islam is seriously under question, what is clear after

extensively researching this topic is that even if a poor man with such

name ever existed at that time, the stories propagated about this person

are legendary, false, fabricated, and fictitious, and there exists no proof

for the validity of these stories attached to him. This point will be

studied in this discussion, by the willing of Allah.



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Introduction

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The fabricated stories around the character of Abdullah Ibn Saba are the

malicious production of one of the disciples of the devil, namely Sayf Ibn

Umar al-Tamimi. He was a story teller, lived in the second century after

Hijrah, who shaped his stories by some primary facts he found in the

documented history of Islam available at that time. Sayf wrote a novel much

the same as what Salman Rushdi did in "Satanic Verses" with similar

motives, but with the difference that the role of Satan in this case was

given to poor Abdullah Ibn Saba.



Sayf Ibn Umar distorted the biographies of the companions of the Holy

Prophet (PBUH%26amp;HF) to please the government of his time, and to distort the

history of Shia and to ridicule Islam. Sayf was a staunch advocate of the

Umayads, who were known throughout history to be one of the worst enemies

of Ahlul-Bayt, and as such, it was in his best interest to invent such

stories to degrade the Shia. In his stories however he followed many other

goals one of which was to cleverly elevate the status of his tribe over

others by inventing some imaginary companions form his tribe. However many

Sunni scholars found numerous unjustifiable heresies in his reports which

was not limited to the issue of Abdullah Ibn Saba, and consequently they

abandoned his reports, and accuse him as a man of forgery and lies. Yet

Sayf's works enjoyed the support of a minority of Sunnis to this date.

Here, later on, I give the sayings of several leading Sunni scholars, who

all confirmed that Sayf Ibn Umar was an untrustworthy person and his

stories are void.



Ideological studies indicate that most of those who hate the Shi'ite school

of thought (a lot of whom being the enemies of Islam anyway) justify their

enmity on this obvious heresy which they would exploit to backup their

attack on Shia. The approach which resembles the one adopted by Sayf Ibn

Umar himself.



The Origin of The Tale

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The tale of Abdullah Ibn Saba is over twelve centuries old. Historians

and writers, one after the other recorded it, adding more and more to it.



With a glance at the chain of transmitters of this story, you will find the

name of Sayf sitting in there. The following historians recorded directly

from Sayf:



(1) Tabari.

(2) Dhahabi. He has also cited from Tabari(1).

(3) Ibn Abi Bakir. He has also recorded from Ibn Athir(15), who has

recorded from Tabari(1).

(4) Ibn Asakir.





The following have recorded indirectly from Sayf:



(5) Nicholson from Tabari(1).





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if you have reply please with evidence and without insult.Is the Abdullah ibn Saba story in Tabari book authentic or not?
You do know that a lot of children don't know about such things
word shia ....

is used ...for followers of holy musa



then in islam



in 35hijri ...when muslims split into 2 groups



called



shiyaan e Ali



shiyaan e maveyya....



later in 40 hijri ...shiyaan e maveyya renamed as



ahle sunnah wal jamaat.......



this is the realities of historyIs the Abdullah ibn Saba story in Tabari book authentic or not?
Abdulla ibn e saba and his group(jews converted to muslim hypocritically) was responsible for Killing Usman raziallanha.Ali raziallahnha,Hasan raziallanha,Hussain Raziallanha and one more member of family of Hazarat Ali raziallnha as a Rvevenge for Khaibar.Abdulla ibn e saba was the pioneer of shia religion.
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Upto the classical age of Shi'ism, all of the erudite Shi'ite scholars attributed the origin of Shi'ism to this same ibn Saba. `Allamah Majlisi said: "Some scholars have asserted that ibn Saba was a Jew who accepted Islam and started voicing his opinion of the `wilayat' (divine appointment) of `Ali. While a Jew, he propounded the exaggerative notion that Yusha ibn Nun was divinely appointed to succeed Prophet Musa, he thus adopted a similar stance with regard to `Ali in relation to the Holy Prophet. He was the first to subscribe to the belief of Imamate, and he openly vitriolated his enemies (i.e. the first three Caliphs) and branded them as infidels. The origin of Shi'ism is thus based on Judaism." (Bihar al-Anwar, vol. 25, p. 287). Other Shi`ah scholars who have affirmed this was `Allamah Kashi in his Rijal al-Kashi and `Allamah Mamaqani in his Tanqih al-Maqal.

Amongst Sunni scholars, `Allamah ibn Taimiyyah had confirmed this in his Minhaj al-Sunnah. He wrote: "More than one Shi`ah scholar have affirmed that that the first one to start disparaging the Sahabah and who introduced the doctrine of wilayah was a hypocrite and a zindiq who intended to corrode Islam from within.
On one hand, they say Ibn Saba founded the school of Ahlul Bayt (as) while no record of him exists in our doctrines and on the other hand they say we existed since the death of the Prophet (saw) and were rebellious of their caliphate. Seems they cannot even make up their own minds so they dismiss anything negative to be linked to the Shias.Is the Abdullah ibn Saba story in Tabari book authentic or not?
Abdullah ibn saba



a Jew who founded shia-ism